As usual the media has overrepresented the risks. It went well. Like you, I will flying from US and I am not sure how well those stainless steel sutures behave at airport scanners or other body scanners / MRI scanners ?? Some of the patients will already have been through the operation and will be happy to offer reassurance and support. The washroom is our room was sporting a nearly unbearable urine smell. If hernia repair is right for you, well set a hospital admission date that is convenient for your schedule. My father needs a hernia operation. My husband got discouraged and gained even more weight. The average stay of patients is 3.2 days. Surgical Wait Times Diagnostic Imaging Wait Times (CT and MRI) Ontario Health is an institution under the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act, 1990 (FIPPA), and has policies, procedures and practices in place to ensure that its collection, use and disclosure of personal information is in accordance with FIPPA. Shouldice also does not require a doctors referral to see patients and bill the Ontario health care system. At Shouldice, we have one of the largest databases on hernia repair in the world. Thanks for your blog. Cataract implants, joint implants, tubal ligation clips are all examples of other extremely safe foreign materials we implant in patients for their benefit. Thanks. Thank you for putting so much valuable information over here. I had minimal bruising and swelling, and am mostly back to normal a few days after surgery. Taxi from Toronto to Shouldice Hernia Centre. Realistically, I am 50, 57 and 163 pounds, am I really going to lose 30 pounds and keep it off for the rest of my life? I got three different answers from Shouldice on how long I should wait to try and conceive after surgery (4 weeks, 3 months and 1 year). Shouldice Hospital in Canada is widely known for one thing-hernia repair! Chronic groin pain after hernia repair is a concern, no question. Sadly once you get the mesh and have issues with it the medical community doesnt know what to do. Surgeons get really angry when people are allowed to do elective surgeries without providing on call services, which is essentially what the Shouldice is doing. The Marburg an der Lahn Salah times typically change daily, the prayer times will be different on each day. Given the heightened concerns with the transmissibility of COVID-19 and the pressures on our Emergency Departments, we ask that you consider your healthcare options before visiting the hospital for non-emergency concerns. State/public schools teach who theyre told to teach meaning everyone else who doesnt get to go to the private schools. Certainly everybody who is having a hernia repaired should carefully discuss the pros and cons of using mesh- its a very individual decision and patients deserve to be well informed. ( I know I already said that but they were really that bad). The vast majority will accept the surgeons advice and do not seek out second opinions or options for their surgery. I agree with Toronto that it is hard to find any real data on the Shouldice clinic. 600 Highway 7Thornhill, Ontario905-881-26002.5 miles from the hospital. I have been informed by most of the local hospitals that there is nothing they can do. She asked me to monitor for fever and other signs of infection and to wait a few more days. Yes, but it will fade with time and is overly visible except when naked. Dr. Yunis and staff accommodated my physical disability, handicap. I have 5 years on one and one year on the latest already Also agree out of the 30 or so both times there were next to no pain or issues just days later.. I applied to Shouldice and was refused surgery for my inguinal hernia. Shouldice refused to accommodate my disability. My doctor wants me to lose 50 lbs and ive tried but I cant and I have never found diets to be successful. Shouldice, like you said, does not do that kind of thing. The clinic sits on luxurious grounds and offers one thing and one thing only. WTF was that?. I went for consultation at Shouldice in October 2013 for consultation regarding an umbilical hernia repair. I have constant pain of some kind from stabbing to just dull along with foreign body sensation. This wound closure and stapling technique are a significant source of discomfort and pain for all patients. Patients are required to be within 20 % of their ideal body weight, and are refused surgery at the Shouldice if they do not meet this criteria or lose the weight. I just had my inguinal hernia repaired at Shouldice. 7750 Bayview Avenue, Thornhill, Ontario. Its one of the great things about my job. The Shouldice will not be handing over their data anytime soon, unless forced to, I can say that with confidence. I would think you could fix it now and get pregnant right away without worry. Shouldice, a brilliant surgeon who revolutionized inguinal hernia repair by developing a dependable, no mesh technique back in 1945. Also, he only went there after years of being discouraged by general surgeons such as yourself but after multiple failed hernia surgeries by these same general surgeons. If I was doing only one operation, the only thing I would be is bored. Naturally I did not wait and had a laparoscopic mesh insertion operation in November in one of the major hospitals around the GTA. This is a complex technique involving multiple overlapping sutures across two layers of muscle. They stick to what they know but when they need to be different for the better of their patient they dont know how to and rather than referring their patient to one that would be better for the patient. Visitors are required to wear a mask when inside the hospital. Thanks for getting back to me. I . Naturally Id like to see the same for the hospital system. Over the past two decades this small 90-bed hospital has averaged 7,000 operations annually. Quick update from my 2017 post on my inguinal hernia repair with mesh. If the damage is so bad in a patient that suturing is no longer plausible then a mesh could be deemed suitable in these circumstances. Mr Dedes- there are many fine surgeons and hospitals in the GTA area which fix hernias. Straight out of a horror film, dim, blinky lights, cold and overall not very reassuring. 6) People continually come from all over the world to have their hernias repaired at Shouldice. I dont understand why it should annoy you or any other surgeon if a place does *easier* surgeries that can be done efficiently. There are definitely many who travel to Shouldice from the USA, where last I heard it runs somewhere around $6500 paid out of pocket for an inguinal hernia repair and the multiple night stay in a facility that supposedly feels collegiate. In fact, the most over investigated, over treated patients are likely to think they have great care, when the opposite is the truth. This expedited recovery time is due to the level of active physical rehabilitation that Shouldice Hospital expects from their patients. The Shouldice clinic is a good example of that. If you dont have a very classic bulging abdominal or groin hernia, they are not going to operate its a random nonsense. Can I please get the name of the hospital an hours drive from Shouldice and your name if possible? While my knowledge of Shouldice is not direct, it is close to home, and entirely contrary to what you have said. I did read the article. This is directed towards user, Toronto: I had my inguinal hernia operated on after much internal (and external debate with various health professionals) by the Shouldice clinic. The Shouldice Clinic is a private clinic operating in the Toronto area which has been open for decades. Marcello..whats your point and why are you here? But then you will have had two surgeries instead of one, with the risks that entails. My son who is 17 years old has an inguinal hernia that needs to be repaired. Shouldice prepares you for your hernia operation and recovery. It is a small hospital dedicated only to hernia repair. I do believe mesh allows me as a surgeon to do a tension free repair which causes less pain, both acute and chronic, post op. in the area have been giving me the run around on who to see so now looking to go where there is someone more specialized. All three were done by general surgeons, and I can honestly say I would have been better off not getting any surgeries from the beginning. I will really appreciate your informed feedback and sincerely hope that maybe more folks will follow your lead in helping make society better informed. Would you please share with me what kind of hernia you had. Shouldice specializes in this unique approach to hernia repair. Thank you. A version of this commentary appeared in the Vancouver Sun, Huffington Post and iPolitics.ca. Laparoscopic and robotic inguinal hernia repair procedures performed by qualified . If I could go back Id take my chances on reoccurance hands down. I have a hernia (incisional/abdominal) that needs to be repaired, with several other smaller hernias, however, my visit to the Shouldice sent me searching for the right General Surgeon instead. I know once Ive been opened up there is no going back. The amount of money being drained away by this clinic from the public system is opportunity cost, not just for hernia repairs, but all healthcare spending. I agree with everything that you say. I love doing a variety of different procedures in patients of all ages, sexes, shapes and sizes. over 30 years and thousands of repairs we have redone 3 for pain The last was 2 weeks ago and already he is pain free. Ive had other friends have a nerve block and it helped them for months so it is hard to know the amount of help it may give you. (thats gotta mean something!). We've found that this peer-to-peer mentoring is important. There are days I literally cannot walk. The goal is to help patients lose weight so that fat no longer hangs from and weakens the abdominal muscles, helping the surgery to go more smoothly. The rigidity of the program is old school military in nature and does not seem to be keeping pace with evolution. We encourage you to take advantage of these beneficial patient programs. I agree. We know that asking patients about their satisfaction with their care has nothing to do with the quality of care provided. There is absolutely no risk involved, just a requirement for the patient to wear an orthosis. Ill take my chances with mesh next time all day long. The recurrence rate for incisional hernia repair without mesh would approach 100 % for a large incisional hernia, so I (and most other general surgeons) would likely not recommend repair without the use of mesh. Best of luck. Thank you so much for your time. Staff was decent, Now the Cons Or it isnt the mesh itself so much as the insertion procedure? I also read that portion with more issues with smaller females, which worried me as Im only 53 and 117 lbs. And if not, would I need further surgery in my 60s if I gain a few pounds. There are many companies which manufacture mesh (hundreds) and yes they like to make money. Do you yourself know how many of your hernia surgeries fail? Authors Anna Bradshaw 1 , Sarah Raphaelson. I wonder if a nerve block might be the answer. I have a consultation in 6 months to decide if I am eligible for surgery (I can tell you now I am) at a local hospital. shouldice clinic wait times. As a surgeon with intimate knowledge of hernia repair, does the actual technique have a solid, anatomical basis and biological plausibility? The benefits of mesh far outweigh the risks for the vast majority of adult hernia patients. So the idea that you think there some sort of mesh industry monopoly is concerning to me. I am not going to comment on specific cases, just generalities here. Thanks Kram. We take meshes out for pain on a weekly basis. So yes, that is you, the taxpayer, footing the bill for unnecessary care being provided by a private company. Its location is the former estate of George McCullagh, a publisher who created The Globe and Mail newspaper in 1936. Different policies will exist. Thank you for your knowledge and insights re hernia repairs. This is so important, but our electronic medical records do not allow that to happen at this point in time. It is located in Toronto, Ontario, Canada north of Highway 401 on Bayview nearer . I feel like patient quality of outcome should be the deciding factor, not just whether the original hernia was handled. [1] The hospital specializes in hernia care. The more you weigh and the more weight you gain after hernia repair, the more your risk of recurrence rises. That is why we offer a diet counselling service to all of our patients. Placed in a room with patient who had surgery the day prior. Shouldice has arrived at its point of success by placing an emphasis on this high level of quality and effective care. The general surgeon I seen advised 6 weeks. Our clinic offers hernia examinations by appointment or on a limited walk-in basis. There is a specialty clinic in Toronto, Canada called Shouldice Hospital. Just frustrating and agree with you on the best I later found out that my friends younger brother had a repair done at the small hospital and has no complications after 8 months with mesh and I went to the one in the area that is considered the best Ive just come to expect the worse I think I have a cloud that just fallows me around :p LOL. I hope that is helpful. It was recently taken over by a private company and is no longer in the hands of the original Shouldice family. Most of my comments refer to groin hernia repair and as I said at the beginning, are based on my opinion as a medical expert and fixer of hernias, not on any raw data, which of course is not available. Also, they dont just do simple hernia surgeries on skinny people. Given the choice, Id choose a hernia comeback. We have just reviewed 400 consecutive patients from 4 years ago and our recurrence rate is 2%. This is part of the problem with our record keeping. The Shouldice then also bills the Ministry of Health for each inpatient day a patient stays overnight. The staples are removed (one half at a time) over the two following days. You dont find Drs in NY doing hernia repairs without the mesh. Open. One year before he developed necrotizing fasciitis, extending from the right knee to the right thoracic wall resulted . Shouldice I learned the name even before it had become personally relevant and noted it. Healthcare. A groin which has been operated on for hernia will never feel the same as before the hernia repair, but for the vast majority of patients they will be aware if their repair, or have to take medications for it. C. The Shouldice procedure was learned from personal observation at the Shouldice Clinic, a book, 9 and instructional articles. I would encourage you to have your father see his family doctor to refer to the hospital and surgeon which are closest to you. Just another casualty to this epidemic caused by mesh. If their procedure was outdated/inappropriate in anyway, then why are they still in business helping 7000 healthy, wealthy and skinny people (morale issue again) per year have pain free and hernia free lives? I was wondering what your thoughts were on the actual Desarda technique, not just the website. Shouldice patients frequen6tly return to work in a few days; the average total time off is eight days. The 3 scars have pretty much healed up. It is very painful to walk, stand, cough, sneeze, laugh, use the washroom in any capacity and expect from the bruising that this will carry on for atleast another week. I have been wearing the orthosis for six years. You are right, there is not a lot of good information for women in your situation. I went into general surgery because its well, general. I honestly cannot think of anything much to criticise beyond, just possibly, the tendency for some staff to be satisfied with your progress in their own minds, but could convey this rather better to the patient my equipment turned black and trebled in size so I had to get a specific answer to my question: is this normal? Our registered dietitian will develop a personalized weight loss program for you and show you how to make healthy food and exercise choices. This was a very informative post. They do not deserve the reputation they have. I was suprised by your posting. Ive tried this though for me personally, it made it worse for me so they are leaning towards it rubbing on my nerves. I had even specifically asked not for mesh or one that is chemically compatible with tissue and got one that wasnt as it is cheaper for them, hospitals, to use one, which has been shown to cause chronic inflammatory response and pain. There is nothing spectacular about this facility. Female were nearly 3% of included patients. Im traveling from the US and paying the entire bill myself (my insurance does not cover non-emergency out of country surgery). 3. shouldice provides hernia repair with a short hospital stay. EMR should allow for reporting of all surgical complications and feedback to the surgeons on their complications, including how many of their hernias recur. There is a limit of 2 visitors per patient. I am also not a fan of the idea of Centres of Excellence. The idea that high volumes of doing one thing only makes you better at it. Are you willing to be more specific about the nature of your problems post op? Sorry your husband had such a tough time with his hernia, hope he is doing well now. Shouldice also claims that its model allows it to perform at a lower cost per case than public hospitals, and that wait times are a fraction of those in the public system. 2 The Lichtenstein procedure was learned from a book, 10 instructional videos, and personal communication with Irving L. Lichtenstein, MD. Based on my experience thus far, I would recommend Shouldice to those who are considering it. Thanks for such a great blog, very helpful and interesting. A tearing feeling (like being stabbed) from bowel movements is prevalent; on the positive side, I had my first pain free sneeze this morning. That is an important distinction. And so what if there are 15% recurrences with suturing methods! Bed manually adjustable by hand crank at foot of bed not comfortably or easily done post surgery. In my opinion Justin you could have got 10 opinions and with a different surgeon had the same unfortunate result. If you dont have a very classic bulging abdominal or groin hernia, they are not going to operate. I did that search, and Im not sure if I saw exactly what you saw, but yes even though Shouldice method (performed at the Shouldice hospital specifically) has a very low recurrence rate, certainly mesh will have the lowest recurrence rate. This clinic needs to keep people in hospital to make money. Employee Training Those who are picked to be on the front-line, are the ones who can help create a great customer experience. But the reality is that in Ontario anyway, major hospitals are getting as bad as any private clinic in letting cost considerations trump quality of patient care, but thats a whole other topic. He chose the hospital. Shouldice Hospital was established in 1945 by Dr. Edward Earle Shouldice (1890-1965), inventor of the Shouldice repair. Straight truth from the USA here folks. I would love to see their numbers as well, but that is unlikely to happen soon. I dont know what the exact policy is on inpatient stay at Shouldice, the website said at least one day pre op, and an unspecified number post op. Please call 905-695-4911 to book a time. This should be broken down into smaller samples to isolate by type of procedure or severity. This makes anyones numbers on hernia repair difficult to interpret, but the Shouldices number in particular should be viewed with a grain of salt. The facilities are dated, the food horrible, and you may not get the surgeon that assesses you. I wish the government would impose laws about refusing patients surgeries and i wish Shoultice was audited! If you need help to lose weight before your operation, one of our surgeons will refer you to our diet counselling services during your initial examination or you can contact them directly at (905) 695-4914. I honestly cannot recall the last time I admitted a patient the night before surgery, except when I was a clinical clerk, and that is going back a long time now. Do the same for a reduction in u from 0.80 to 0.70. (Wait time "explodes" the closer utilization gets to 100%! The wait times were significantly higher than normal. Yes, but it was over quickly, and I felt my recovery was extremely successful with minimal time off work. Sounds like he needs a repair, although you dont need to worry about blood supply usually. Understandably, patients like their surgeon to appear omniscient and surgeons rather like that, too (jokes about the God complex). or skilled? I went for a long walk after the surgery. I live in Montreal, soon to be living in Ontario. Yes, Im not overweight, which helps, but others that had lost weight for their surgery I kept in touch with had great things to say about their experience as well. She commented that the incision was very near and well done. So that is a great question. Shouldice performs, on average, 150 operations per week, with patients generally staying at the hospital for three days. I see that you are anti-Shouldice but wonder how much of that is based on procedure/method and how much is related to you not liking that they get to do only elective and cherry pick. I have just been chastised online for daring to criticize the Shouldice clinic on Twitter. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10452261. Now I have chronic pain and wondering if I should of stuck out the pain another week or two to find another Dr. for another opinion. The surgery at Shouldice reportedly costs in the neighborhood of $5,000 to $8,000, less than a similar surgery in the U.S. that 90% of the time uses polypropylene mesh. Shouldice Inguinal Hernia Repair Post-op Instructions Surgery You have just undergone surgery to repair an inguinal hernia. Care and service do not stop once you leave Shouldice Hospital. The rate of this risk varies, you say it is low, but the risk exists.
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