Groups were measured from center to center of the Copyright 2005, 2017 by ChuckHawks.com. I load 44.5 grains of the powder with Sierra 50-grain BlitzKing bullets for the same velocity from the 26-inch barrel of a Winchester Model 70 Varmint. I have shot several five-shot groups that only had three bullet holes on target. yard velocity/energy figures for this load are 1873 fps and 132 ft. lbs. (If you don't This makes for a light recoil round that has very good long range ballistics. A 50-grain V-Max exiting the .22-250 Rem. Alternatives, getting heavy The Remington case is about 0.006 inch larger in diameter at its body/shoulder juncture, and its head-space dimension is about 0.004 inch longer. barrel, the rifle for which this load was specifically designed. JavaScript is disabled. CCI's published 100 55mm. load exceeded its published MV by 45 fps, the Remington Premier load 223 Remington: 52 grain Berger MEF bullets, LaPua brass, Federal 205 M (match) primers and H 335 powder. It ignites easily and produces uniform velocities, even though a charge of A-5744 may occupy only a portion of a cartridge case. The 20-grain bullets offer a good compromise over the industry standard 25-grain as they can be loaded faster. Available as a flat-base design or Maximum Expansion Factor (MEF) bullet, both provide super-fast velocities coupled with a very flat trajectory and sheer on-target energy transfer. ammunition manufacturers for chronograph testing. A 50-grain V-Max exiting the muzzle of a rifle in .223 Rem. They are accurate, flat shooting, quiet and have practically no I never used RL19, so I have no . I use a book max load of varget of 24.5g and 25 grain berger match HP's. The 200-grain FTX load with 46.0 grains of LVR averaged 2,163 fps with a 0.83-inch group average. Re: 17 Remington Likes Dislikes [Re: andrews1958] #6836728 We used the four Subscriber Services. Sighted-in about 2 inches high at 100 yards, the FTX load hits only 1 inch low at 200 yards. LT-32, loaded in the .223, shot a five-shot group that measured .54 inch with Nosler 69-grain HPBT bullets and .73-inch groups with Hornady 40-grain V-MAX and Nosler 50-grain Ballistic Tips. need to hold 5.5" above the desired point of impact. varmint bullet at a MV of 2550 fps and ME of 245 ft. lbs. The brass is good quality and it's great for reloading, and the loaded ammo isn't much more expensive once fired brass, which is hard to find for the .22 Hornet. loads we compared for this article. What It Is Not. This the standard, not the Fireball. different brands of ammunition, but to me the most interesting part of Shooting 20 of those cartridges is enough fun for a day. All proved to be .17 Remington - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #16 Lee #4 Lyman #26 RCBS #10 Recipe Type: Bullet Weight: Recipe Source: Starting Max Source 15.5 gr NTX (HDY) 0.172" Powder: Benchmark (Hodgdon) Primer: REM 7 Case: REM Trim Length: 1.786" C.O.L. Choose your caliber, bullet and bullet weight to find your desired Hornady load data. The data guide lists .223 Remington loads for A-2495 with 80- and 90-grain bullets. The Federal Premium V-Shok load we tested uses a 17 The M1903 Springfield, officially the United States Rifle, Caliber .30-06, Model 1903, is an American five-round magazine-fed, bolt-action service repeating rifle, used primarily during the first half of the 20th century.. This means the bullet hits dead on at 145 yards and about 1.5" low at All Rights Reserved. Zero the .17 Ackley Hornet with the Hornady 20-grain V-Max at 3,600 fps two inches high at 100 yards and it is two inches high at 200 yards and four inches low at 300. REMINGTON Premier AccuTip-V: high 2626 fps; low 2591 You won't find a powder that will work "ideal" for both the .223 and the 25/06. Remington 7 1/2 BR. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Picked up a nice CZ 527 varmint a month ago. Hornady, Remington, and Winchester list new cartridge cases, although the modest popularity of the round makes their availability spotty. Federal has created a safer, easier and more reliable way to shoot a muzzleloader. The Remington Golden Bullet offers excellent reliability in a wide range of firearms. The overall average for the Model 336 was 0.92 inch; it was 1.07 inches for the Outfitter. This medium-burning, double-base spherical powder works best in the .223 Remington shooting 55-grain and heavier bullets. Best of luck with the Cooper Rifle. These were with 25gr Hornady hp's seated .005" off . Hornady 123-grain Spire Point bullets loaded over LT-32 and fired from a CZ 527 7.62 x39 formed this 100-yard group. The .17 HMR round has a blistering muzzle velocity of 2,500 fps. Travis if you are interrested in the load PM me and I'll send it. During one of those conversations, I requested samples of any sub-caliber wildcats Ackley might have on hand. MV with a 20 grain bullet is 3000 fps and MV with a 25 grain bullet is 2600 fps. From Accurate 5744 to 4350, Accurate offers plenty of powders for varmint hunters, from the substantial .25-06 down to the pocket- sized .17 Fireball. I had some trouble with the 25 grain vmaxes, even though i have a 1:9 twist. Ive burned several pounds of A-2700 in the .22-250 and Swift. I calculated the velocity, lowest velocity, extreme spread, and mean average velocity. Highly accurate cup-and-core, polymer-tipped and Partition bullets cover most bases, and new bonded bullets and several . 77/17VMBBZ, Savage A17 and Savage Model 93R17-BVSS). Chambered in its popular Model 700 bolt-action rifle with a 24in barrel, the 25-grain Power Lokt bullet surpassed the magical 4,000fps barrier and a new varmint cartridge was born. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. I got to know Ackley while he was doing some rifle work for me during the 1960s and 70s. hence this article. With 27.0 grains of A-1680, Speer 125-grain, .311-inch bullets leave the CZs 18.5-inch barrel at 2,335 fps. In the .25-06, Hornady 75-grain V-MAX bullets topped out at 3,508 fps with 56.5 grains of the powder. with Hornady Manufacturing Company bullets either below or in our load database by clicking the 'Matching Loads' button above. Nov 26, 2017. : 4,638 4,917 Press. How does the performance of the .17s compare with .22 caliber varmint cartridges? The smallest cartridge was the .25-35 Winchester, which preceded the .30-30 Winchester by a few months, both of which were introduced in 1895. Turning to the Speer FN bullets, the 180-grain version favored a charge of 46.0 grains at 2,316 fps. became obvious that we were also, unavoidably, testing the ammunition By that time most of his hearing was gone, and his daughter would answer the phone and relay the conversation back and forth between her father and the caller. Brass Mfg: Winchester. are the Speer 180- and 220-grain softpoint flatnose (SPFN). Typically, groups with each rifle are fired for record by three or four Guns and Shooting Online staffers and/or contributors. When it comes down to velocity, the .17 Rem. This fast-burning, double-base, extruded powder is made in Canada. BP-B2. 24.0g of IMR 4350 with a Rem 7 1/2 (Warning do not use a thin cup primer with the 17 Remington) 25g bullet = 4100+ Decopper your barrel frequently, use good bronze bristle brushes often and throw them away after 100 strokes. Both bullets have been pretty accurate with a little load work up. It may be a touch too slow burning for the .22-250 still, 55-grain bullets reached slightly over 3,600 fps with groups close to .5 inch. Accurate 2460 shot 20- and 25-grain bullets a good 250 fps faster than other powders loaded in the .17 Fireball, and with great accuracy. | Lighter and tougher and more precise than ever, it's the perfect back country hunting rifle. The Remington 7 1/2 BR couldn't be match. Caliber: This translates to poor retained energy figures down-range. I have found that Alliant RL15 has been the most consistent and accurate powder to use. Slower-burning powders, such as Accurate 2460 and Ramshot TAC, increase velocities with heavier bullets, but not all that much. The Federal Premium V-Shok load we tested uses a 17 grain Speer TNT JHP bullet at a claimed MV of 2550 fps and ME of 245 ft. lbs. All loads were fired at a distance of 50 yards from the benchrest in my shooting building. After that, the die is set for head-spacing on the shoulder of the case. The .35 Rem. Joined: Dec 2015. When can deer be hunted? The powder produced good accuracy and velocity with bullets cast from an RCBS 45-405-FN mould and fired in a Marlin 1895 Guide Gun .45-70. Rob. 22g of H322 with a 25g Berger, always use a thick cup primer in the 17 Remington: I've never had fouling problems, even when standing on them. I prefer the 25-grain V-Max in the .17 Remington because it slices through wind a bit better than the 20-grain version, and it delivers more energy to boot. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! Hornady offers a Varmint Express load using a 17 grain All are clean burning and temperature insensitive. We fired 10 shots per load over the Guns I picked up a rifle that I've been wanting for a long time: a 700 Classic in 17 Remington. As for propellants, the hands-down choice with all bullets is LVR from Hodgdon, so lets look at the LVR loads. Re: 17 Remington Load Data. largest group 2-3/4"; mean average group = 1-13/32". The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. In 1970, OBrien sold his company to Harrington & Richardson, which renamed the rifle the Model 317 Ultra Wildcat. Is it actually possible to get IMR or varget powders in Australia, ive never really seen them???? A dose of 43.0 grains of LVR gives it a muzzle energy of 2,219 ft-lbs. at 3,400 fps and zeroed the same is down three inches at 100 yards. Contributing Editor for RifleShooter Magazine, Brad Fitzpatrick gives us a review of this modernized version of an iconic favorite. and 28-degree shoulder. Its best use is for low-pressure, cast-bullet loads in the .223 on up to the .45-70. Primer: CCI250 for 168s, Fed215M for the 180s. 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He called it the .17 Pee Wee and built a dramatically scaled-down 1917 Enfield action specifically for it. that the averages below would have been smaller if testing had taken Best accuracy came with the 20-grain V-Maxs at 100 yards, with all shots hovering at 0.45in. I tried 26 grains of Win 760 with hornady 25grain hps and got some better results with that(not that much better though only about 1.5 MOA). The 30-grain Berger bullet is a very good choice for foxes with good retained energy, expansion and down-range wind-bucking capabilities. After looking at load data for the 17 Mach IV and looking at Quickload, it seems something in the burn rate of IMR 4198, Vihta Vuori N110, Alliant 2400, Alliant Reloader 7, Hodgdon Lil'Gun, Alliant Blue Dot, and IMR 4227 would meet the requirement. My most accurate 41 mag load still is a Lyman 410610 GC WW pushed by 21.3 grains 296 in my 41 Mag Dan Wesson 8 " heavy barrel. Hornady Load Data. from CCI, Federal, Hornady and Remington, the brands of ammunition most Pressures are about 20,000 pounds per square inch (psi) with 12.0 grains of A-5744 and Lymans 225646 55-grain cast bullet in the .223. 100 yard groups running from .5 minute of angle (MOA) to .9375 MOA and So the plateau has been reached where no more powder can be burned to increase velocity. Thats why, even today, people who talk of the .17 say it dirties barrels, burns out barrels and is affected by the wind because of the lightweight projectile. Tips, techniques, and equipment are applied to these classroom discussions on how to become more proficient and successful at making long-range shots while hunting with AR-platform rifles. It was the most accurate rifle and load I ever used. Those are not huge differences in bullet drop and drift between the two bullet diameters, although the .22s do deliver more energy to the target.